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Jim Berry
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 Posted - 12/10/2008 : 1:10:09 PM
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Seems to me the City would be wise to speak with someone at the West Chester Chamber Alliance pronto, if they have not already (Bob?). I'm sure there's someone on this forum who works for the Alliance's Chairman of the Board (for 8 years)...
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Enigma
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Ursosju25
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Posted - 12/10/2008 : 1:36:40 PM
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I thought joining West Chester and Liberty TWP was a good idea till I remembered what is in West Chester?
AK Steel Headquarters with said that group could very well support the plant too. |
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Bretland
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Posted - 12/10/2008 : 1:39:16 PM
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Question on the Middletown Chamber Economic Development page:
Has anyone from the City of Monroe asked that the page be changed to reflect the statistics about Monroe?
Was anyone from Monroe actively involved in meetings and discussions leading up to the development of that document.
Again, if you don't participate you can't expect recognition.
On the other hand, if we're actively involved and we requested equal time but were told to "forget it" - then that's a whole different scenario and the relationship should be terminated.
Can we get a list of the number of Chamber meetings in the past 3 years that were attended by the City Manager, Mayor or another City representative? Is the number 0? Is the number 5? Is the number 50??
Just trying to get a complete picture. |
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Bob Kelley
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Posted - 12/10/2008 : 1:45:49 PM
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Yes we have made requests and yes we have been involved. Mr. Triick was on our CIC board and Mr. Brock serves on the Chamber board. quote:
Originally posted by Bretland
Question on the Middletown Chamber Economic Development page:
Has anyone from the City of Monroe asked that the page be changed to reflect the statistics about Monroe?
Was anyone from Monroe actively involved in meetings and discussions leading up to the development of that document.
Again, if you don't participate you can't expect recognition.
On the other hand, if we're actively involved and we requested equal time but were told to "forget it" - then that's a whole different scenario and the relationship should be terminated.
Can we get a list of the number of Chamber meetings in the past 3 years that were attended by the City Manager, Mayor or another City representative? Is the number 0? Is the number 5? Is the number 50??
Just trying to get a complete picture.
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Ursosju25
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Posted - 12/10/2008 : 1:45:59 PM
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quote:
[i]Originally posted by Bretland[/i]
[br]Question on the Middletown Chamber Economic Development page:
Has anyone from the City of Monroe asked that the page be changed to reflect the statistics about Monroe?
Was anyone from Monroe actively involved in meetings and discussions leading up to the development of that document.
Again, if you don't participate you can't expect recognition.
On the other hand, if we're actively involved and we requested equal time but were told to "forget it" - then that's a whole different scenario and the relationship should be terminated.
Can we get a list of the number of Chamber meetings in the past 3 years that were attended by the City Manager, Mayor or another City representative? Is the number 0? Is the number 5? Is the number 50??
Just trying to get a complete picture.
Bret,
The fact is the chamber tried to run this coke plant down our throats with their letters to the editor. That letter I saw on Monday made me decide to propose the idea of telling the council to no longer do business with the chamber. I am glad were no longer associated with them and now we can move on and thrive without them. |
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Bob Kelley
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John Beagle
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Posted - 12/10/2008 : 1:53:16 PM
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Also not much Monroe Board Membership, just Middletown:
Bill Triick - President and Chief Executive Officer
(513)422-4551 ext.203
bill@thechamberofcommerce.org
Joined the Chamber in August 2004
Serves on boards of directors for
Middletown Economic Development Corporation
TV Middletown
Butler County Transportation Improvement District
Middletown Moving Forward, Inc (CIC)
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[i]Originally posted by Bob Kelley[/i]
[br]http://www.thechamberofcommerce.org/
Click on the Economic Development page and tell me what you find.
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Bretland
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Posted - 12/10/2008 : 1:58:18 PM
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Urso,
If Monroe was actively involved with the Middletown Chamber that they are (were) a member of, don't you think we could have prevented the editorial from going to the Journal or at least had it worded differently?
If not, then we could have written our own editorial to the paper stating that we were not given consideration on the Chamber's position and then we could have announced our plans to withdraw from the Chamber at that time. It would have had a lot more effect.
As it is, the Chamber acted as if we weren't a part of their organization - and from a participation standpoint we probably weren't.
Looks like we kind of brought this on ourselves......... |
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Bob Kelley
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Posted - 12/10/2008 : 2:05:55 PM
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The answer is no, he would not have worded it different and we have submitted our own letter to the editor.quote:
Originally posted by Bretland
Urso,
If Monroe was actively involved with the Middletown Chamber that they are (were) a member of, don't you think we could have prevented the editorial from going to the Journal or at least had it worded differently?
If not, then we could have written our own editorial to the paper stating that we were not given consideration on the Chamber's position and then we could have announced our plans to withdraw from the Chamber at that time. It would have had a lot more effect.
As it is, the Chamber acted as if we weren't a part of their organization - and from a participation standpoint we probably weren't.
Looks like we kind of brought this on ourselves.........
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Bretland
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Posted - 12/10/2008 : 2:34:40 PM
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"The answer is no, he would not have worded it different"
Your opinion or have you spoken directly to Mr. Triick? |
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Bob Kelley
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Bretland
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Posted - 12/10/2008 : 4:11:47 PM
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If there was discussion on this particular issue, then Monroe should respond accordingly and let the greater community know exactly how all this went down and why we're dropping out of the Chamber.
It's not proper for an organization (Middletown Chamber) to treat a participating member like Monroe was treated. However, if Monroe wasn't an actively participating member than the actions by the Middletown Chamber were appropriate. |
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Bob Kelley
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Hornet86
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Posted - 12/10/2008 : 4:26:15 PM
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quote:
[i]Originally posted by Ursosju25[/i]
[br]quote:
[i]Originally posted by Bretland[/i]
[br]Question on the Middletown Chamber Economic Development page:
Has anyone from the City of Monroe asked that the page be changed to reflect the statistics about Monroe?
Was anyone from Monroe actively involved in meetings and discussions leading up to the development of that document.
Again, if you don't participate you can't expect recognition.
On the other hand, if we're actively involved and we requested equal time but were told to "forget it" - then that's a whole different scenario and the relationship should be terminated.
Can we get a list of the number of Chamber meetings in the past 3 years that were attended by the City Manager, Mayor or another City representative? Is the number 0? Is the number 5? Is the number 50??
Just trying to get a complete picture.
Bret,
The fact is the chamber tried to run this coke plant down our throats with their letters to the editor. That letter I saw on Monday made me decide to propose the idea of telling the council to no longer do business with the chamber. I am glad were no longer associated with them and now we can move on and thrive without them.
and you have never tried to run something down anybodies throat?
I got a call into news 5 and Mary Detcher
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kolby
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Posted - 12/10/2008 : 4:32:42 PM
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http://www.middletownjournal.com/hp/content/oh/story/news/local/2008/12/10/mj121108chambers.html
Chamber will continue serving Monroe despite city's withdrawal
By Jessica Heffner
Staff Writer
Wednesday, December 10, 2008
The Chamber of Commerce serving Middletown, Monroe and Trenton will continue serving businesses in Monroe despite that city's decision to drop its membership.
At a Monroe City Council meeting Tuesday, Dec. 9, council voted unanimously, 6-0, to not renew its membership with the chamber.
Bill Triick, president of the chamber, said he did not know council was going to cancel its membership until reading it in the newspaper today.
As of this afternoon, Triick said he still has not been contacted by city officials about the decision.
While Monroe may have withdrawn its membership, Triick said the chamber still has every plan of serving the business community in the city and keeping "Monroe" in its name.
"We have 55-plus members in Monroe and serve their names and will advance their business interests. We do that for every community we serve," he said.
During the council meeting, Councilman Bob Kelley recommended not renewing the chamber membership because he did not believe the city's needs were being met.
Triick and chamber chairman Fred DeBiasi wrote a letter to the Journal's editor Tuesday encouraging residents to attend the Monroe meeting to show support for the $340 million coke oven facility to be built in Middletown. Monroe officials have opposed the Ohio EPA's decision to approve an air permit for the facility and plan to appeal the decision.
The chamber has been advocating for the facility and behalf of its members, Triick said, including businesses in Monroe.
"Virtually an unanimous business opinion in Monroe is for this SunCoke project to go forward and that is what we think these business leaders need to know," he said.
While Triick said the council may have felt the letter was a criticism of its opposition to SunCoke, it is still the chambers' job to communicate the opinion of the businesses Triick said.
"We are not a chamber of community, a chamber of festivals, we are a chamber of commerce and the businesses are our concern," Triick added.
Many businesses depend on contracts from AK Steel, which has contracted to buy coke and electricity from the SunCoke facility for the next 20 years. The plant will not just ensure local steelmaking viability, he said, but also the viability of companies that do business with AK.
According to AK spokesman Alan McCoy, the company provided $37 million in business to Monroe suppliers this year. In addition, 100 Monroe residents work for AK, either at its corporate headquarters, research center or Middletown Works mill.
City Manager William Brock said the Monroe pays about $315 per year to be a part of the chamber.
This story will be updated as more information becomes available.
Contact this reporter at (513) 705-2843 or jheffner@coxohio.com. |
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John Beagle
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Posted - 12/10/2008 : 4:44:36 PM
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From Bill Triick via email:
The chamber is the voice of business for Monroe and intends to keep that in our name. We will continue to advocate for our Monroe members (55+) and know that virtually all Monroe based businesses are in favor of the SunCoke project. The benefits to this region far outweigh any opposing concerns while we respect the rights of others to voice such. Additionally, the benefits to the City of Monroe are substantial: over 20 Monroe companies and hundreds of residents employed by these Monroe companies in addition to AK Steel need steelmaking to continue for their existence, and the new technology of SunCoke is a more environmentally friendly improvement. Ohio EPA has given their blessing to this air permit and concluded that it meets all the provisions of the Clean Air Act. This is the input that we feel the elected leaders of Monroe need to hear. We have always in the past been available to meet with Monroe's leadership and remain available at any time. |
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buckeyenut
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Posted - 12/10/2008 : 5:27:18 PM
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Not having read this entire thread (yet), I think Bob Kelley made the right motion and I applaud Monroe Council for doing the right thing and breaking away from the Middleotwn Chamber. I haven't seen where they have done anything constructive for our city. I would hope that Monroe would be looking into the advantages of aligning ourselves to the south where positive growth is occuring and I'm hopeful we will join with the West Chester Chamber Alliance. I know in my research, our little nonprofit was made to feel quite welcome to join West Chester/Liberty Township.
I know I've mentioned this to Tracy in the past but I'd love to see Monroe nonprofits band together and form an alliance of our own. Along with Monroe businesses as a collective, we could accomplish much more to benefit our city. A puzzle has many pieces, small and large with one being just as important as the other, but you need a strong foundation upon which to build.
I encourage our city leaders to take a few meetings with West Chester and see what our future could hold. |
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Doc
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Posted - 12/10/2008 : 5:31:41 PM
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Given the number of new businesses that have opened up in Middletown, shouldn't the name of their organization be changed to "The Middletown Dungeon of Commerce"?
I can't see why anyone would support this organization when they can't even seem to keep the corporate offices of it's business anchor from moving out of town.
/EDIT: and thanks to some of the best timing EVER from the Middletown Journal; here's my proof:
http://www.middletownjournal.com/hp/content/oh/story/news/business/2008/12/10/mj121008fastestdying.html
Take THAT "Chamber of Fleeing Companies"! |
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Enigma
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Fox
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Posted - 12/10/2008 : 6:06:19 PM
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| Looks like there are 100 people who live in Monroe who work at AK. Then you have those who work for company's that do work for AK who live in Monroe. Then you have 37 million dollars going to businesses in Monroe from AK. Looks like AK has some affect on Monroe. I think Monroe is doing the right thing by fighting the location of the Coke plant and not the coke plant itself. The Chamber of Commerce vote was not a wise move during this heated debate. This could have been done at a later date. There was no reason to do this last night. Showboating at its best. |
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Tracy
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Posted - 12/10/2008 : 7:16:34 PM
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[br]Looks like there are 100 people who live in Monroe who work at AK. Then you have those who work for company's that do work for AK who live in Monroe. Then you have 37 million dollars going to businesses in Monroe from AK. Looks like AK has some affect on Monroe. I think Monroe is doing the right thing by fighting the location of the Coke plant and not the coke plant itself. The Chamber of Commerce vote was not a wise move during this heated debate. This could have been done at a later date. There was no reason to do this last night. Showboating at its best.
Sorry I disagree, last night was a good time end the membership. The meeting last night was the last meeting of the year. The membership would be due after the first and before the first meeting of 2009, saving us the cost of the membership. Bob made the motion and it had very good merit and was passed. No showboating at all. If you would like to come to the council meeting you will see that is not how we do business. |
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SBK
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Posted - 12/10/2008 : 7:41:43 PM
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37 million ? Where do you get these facts from ?
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[br]Looks like there are 100 people who live in Monroe who work at AK. Then you have those who work for company's that do work for AK who live in Monroe. Then you have 37 million dollars going to businesses in Monroe from AK. Looks like AK has some affect on Monroe. I think Monroe is doing the right thing by fighting the location of the Coke plant and not the coke plant itself. The Chamber of Commerce vote was not a wise move during this heated debate. This could have been done at a later date. There was no reason to do this last night. Showboating at its best.
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Bob Kelley
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Posted - 12/10/2008 : 7:55:55 PM
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Better yet, why don't these businesses pay taxes on it? I think we need to order audits of every business that deals with AK in the City to find that revenue. quote:
Originally posted by SBK
37 million ? Where do you get these facts from ?
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Looks like there are 100 people who live in Monroe who work at AK. Then you have those who work for company's that do work for AK who live in Monroe. Then you have 37 million dollars going to businesses in Monroe from AK. Looks like AK has some affect on Monroe. I think Monroe is doing the right thing by fighting the location of the Coke plant and not the coke plant itself. The Chamber of Commerce vote was not a wise move during this heated debate. This could have been done at a later date. There was no reason to do this last night. Showboating at its best.
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Fox
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Posted - 12/10/2008 : 7:59:51 PM
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According to AK spokesman Alan McCoy, the company provided $37 million in business to Monroe suppliers this year. In addition, 100 Monroe residents work for AK, either at its corporate headquarters, research center or Middletown Works mill.
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Fox
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Posted - 12/10/2008 : 8:18:10 PM
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[br]Better yet, why don't these businesses pay taxes on it? I think we need to order audits of every business that deals with AK in the City to find that revenue. quote:
Originally posted by SBK
37 million ? Where do you get these facts from ?
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Originally posted by Fox
Looks like there are 100 people who live in Monroe who work at AK. Then you have those who work for company's that do work for AK who live in Monroe. Then you have 37 million dollars going to businesses in Monroe from AK. Looks like AK has some affect on Monroe. I think Monroe is doing the right thing by fighting the location of the Coke plant and not the coke plant itself. The Chamber of Commerce vote was not a wise move during this heated debate. This could have been done at a later date. There was no reason to do this last night. Showboating at its best.
I think that is a good idea. You can start with Worthington Steel. |
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SBK
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Posted - 12/10/2008 : 8:57:17 PM
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You think WS gets alot of busines from AK ?
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[br]quote:
[i]Originally posted by Bob Kelley[/i]
[br]Better yet, why don't these businesses pay taxes on it? I think we need to order audits of every business that deals with AK in the City to find that revenue. quote:
Originally posted by SBK
37 million ? Where do you get these facts from ?
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Looks like there are 100 people who live in Monroe who work at AK. Then you have those who work for company's that do work for AK who live in Monroe. Then you have 37 million dollars going to businesses in Monroe from AK. Looks like AK has some affect on Monroe. I think Monroe is doing the right thing by fighting the location of the Coke plant and not the coke plant itself. The Chamber of Commerce vote was not a wise move during this heated debate. This could have been done at a later date. There was no reason to do this last night. Showboating at its best.
I think that is a good idea. You can start with Worthington Steel.
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HBG
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Posted - 12/10/2008 : 9:26:16 PM
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| I know that a hair salon is peanuts compared to most if not all of the business in Monroe, However whenI had Hello Gorgeous (which was technically in Monroe) I never had one solicitation, one invititation from the chamber of commerce. |
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Posted - 12/10/2008 : 9:42:24 PM
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| Some people seem to think that AK will close if they do not get this coke plant. That is what they want you to think. They made record amounts of steel (during the lockout, by the way) without this coke plant. They can get coke elsewhere. They want this plant because it is more profitable for them. What is good for AK in this case is bad for Monroe. |
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Posted - 12/11/2008 : 08:02:10 AM
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Add to that the fact that SunCoke has stated that they will build in KY if not at the present location. Either way, it appears that AK is going to do business with SunCoke, it's only a matter of where the SunCoke plant will be placed.
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[br]Some people seem to think that AK will close if they do not get this coke plant. That is what they want you to think. They made record amounts of steel (during the lockout, by the way) without this coke plant. They can get coke elsewhere. They want this plant because it is more profitable for them. What is good for AK in this case is bad for Monroe.
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Bretland
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Posted - 12/11/2008 : 11:31:46 AM
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Bob K,
Why can't I get a straight answer on whether or not the City of Monroe was an active participant of the Middletown Chamber.
For the nth time, if you (City of Monroe) were an active member then it appears that they treated us inappropriately on this latest issue around the Coke plant.
If you weren't an active member of the Middletown Chamber, why would you join another Chamber?
The quality of my life is just another deflection off of the topic. My life is just fine. I'm trying to get a picture of what really has been happening between the City of Monroe and the Middletown Chamber and I can't get anyone from Monroe to give me some definitive feedback. |
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Bob Kelley
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Posted - 12/11/2008 : 12:16:32 PM
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Bob, have you read his article, it states he does not care what the city thinks they represent AK, thus answering your question about would he have altered the wording and the answer was no. I have answered every one of your questions to the point. If you choose not to believe the answer I can't help with that.
We are out of the Middletown Chamber and will be working to provide chamber services to ALL of our businesses. I'm sorry if you don't agree with the decision but it is the decision that was made and we will move forward. |
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Bob Kelley
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Posted - 12/17/2008 : 6:28:23 PM
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http://www.middletownjournal.com/hp/content/oh/story/news/local/2008/12/18/mon121808chamber.html
By Denise Wilson
Staff Writer
Thursday, December 18, 2008
The city of Monroe has decided to join the West Chester Chamber Alliance after recently ending its membership with the Chamber of Commerce that serves Middletown, Monroe and Trenton.
Monroe City Council Member Bob Kelley said he received a phone call from one of the West Chester chamber's executive committee members Wednesday, Dec. 17, who told him that during a Chamber meeting the city had been approved to apply for membership with the group. The city pursued the membership and was not solicited by the West Chester Chamber Alliance to join.
Kelley said once the city officially joins the chamber, details of the membership will be worked out.
"I'm very thrilled about the prospects of being a part of that chamber and I think that we can offer them a lot and they can offer us a lot, and I hope it's a membership we can have for a long time," said Kelley, who recommended that the city not renew its membership with the Chamber of Commerce.
He recommended the city not renew its membership because he said he did not believe the city's needs are being met.
Also, Kelley said Monroe is a growing city that doesn't need to be affiliated with Middletown, which he pointed out was just named among the top dying cities in America.
Monroe had been a member of the Chamber of Commerce for more than 10 years, said City Manager William Brock. |
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Doc
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Posted - 12/17/2008 : 6:37:34 PM
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Does that mean that we are required to have at least one Starbucks and one Caribou Coffee located inside the city limits?  |
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Ursosju25
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Posted - 12/17/2008 : 7:04:24 PM
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Bob,
Remember AK Headquarters are in this chamber?
Will that force this group to support the project too? |
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Posted - 12/17/2008 : 7:30:09 PM
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Why does everyone keep going to Middletown if they hate it so much, how many use the hospital? Many have said Middletown water is better than Monroe's. Will Monroe people whom work at AK quit? , stop going to the festivals at Smith Park? I hope this works with the chamber but I believe West Chester will take care of their self first as any other city would. Maybe Monroe really wanted to follow the company that is hated most to West Chester. Makes no sense except for the jealousy of wanting to be like West Chester.
Understand that I am not fond of AK or Middletown but because someone does not always get exactly what they want or think they should have doesn't make the other parties the devil.
What would the council of Monroe have said if they wanted a business on the boarder of another city and that other city did not want that business for one reason or another, I think Monroe would say the same as any other city in that situation, we need the taxes, we're sorry. There is many many Monroe people still coming to Middletown for one thing or another, think it's now time to back up many people's words and boycott Middletown? Now EVERYONE should be shopping eating and doing all other business in West Chester, there is even a hospital there. Middletown has terrible roads, spare your car, Everyone stay off of them..not just a select few,,,everyone. Work in Middletown? Take a job in a good city. Back up the words: If you talk the talk then walk the walk but do it by 100% of the people or not at all and I bet many will not and still only talk the talk. Good shopping and eating in and around West Chester, something for EVERYONE.
I wish the city much luck with the move that has been made, but it's best not to burn the bridges that you are now burning. |
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Posted - 12/17/2008 : 9:12:36 PM
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I think you and I both are thinking the same, ya think?quote:
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[br]I wonder what the West Chester Chamber's position is on the Suncoke plant.
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Houndog
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Posted - 12/17/2008 : 9:21:21 PM
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I have emailed one of our council persons and they have yet to respond. I would like to begin a campaign to encourage our local businesses to drop from the Middletown Chamber and either form their own chamber or join another.
Does anyone know how many Monroe businesses have dropped out of the Middletown Chamber? |
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I thought that would be automatic now that Monroe has joined up with West Chester. Maybe it would be good for those that live in Monroe and have a business in Middletown to move their business FROM Middletown TO Monroe and give Monroe their taxes.quote:
[i]Originally posted by Houndog[/i]
[br]I have emailed one of our council persons and they have yet to respond. I would like to begin a campaign to encourage our local businesses to drop from the Middletown Chamber and either form their own chamber or join another.
Does anyone know how many Monroe businesses have dropped out of the Middletown Chamber?
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Too Many Hobbies
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Posted - 12/17/2008 : 9:30:20 PM
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| Duke Realty has 6 office buildings at Onion Center, one of which is the AK building. Also take into account the large P&G facilities, multiple distribution centers, other manufacturers, retail, etc, etc. West Chester may care, slightly, about AK HQ, but it is small potatoes overall. GE, who is coming will be a great deal bigger. Keep in mind that no Sunchoke does not mean that AK, or AK HQ will close. AK may wail, but they can build the choke plant in KY. |
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Posted - 12/17/2008 : 9:32:38 PM
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| What about Lebanon, what chamber do they belong to? West Chester won't give Monroe the time of day. We have flea markets and they have The Streets of West Chester. |
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Lebanon has the nicest city around, they actually have a downtown and seem to have to know how on how to do things right. Nothing like driving on the Interstate and seeing the Monroe's finest flea markets. Soon the new mall will be completed and named "The mall at factory drive".quote:
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[br]What about Lebanon, what chamber do they belong to? West Chester won't give Monroe the time of day. We have flea markets and they have The Streets of West Chester.
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Bob Kelley
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Posted - 12/17/2008 : 9:46:39 PM
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A letter has been in preparation since we dropped the chamber. There are a couple of pieces to the puzzle that need placed before that letter can go out. I don't know who you sent that to but they may be waiting for the rest of the groundwork to be put into place. It's almost a certainty that nothing will be done before the next council meeting in January when the full council can have time to review the message going out and also review the plan to move forward. Past that, you may be on the spam list  and no one received your email.quote:
Originally posted by Houndog
I have emailed one of our council persons and they have yet to respond. I would like to begin a campaign to encourage our local businesses to drop from the Middletown Chamber and either form their own chamber or join another.
Does anyone know how many Monroe businesses have dropped out of the Middletown Chamber?
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Posted - 12/17/2008 : 9:55:04 PM
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No money, what bridges are we burning?
We, as leaders in Monroe, decided to make choices that we feel are the best direction for Monroe. That is one of the reasons we were elected by the citizens. If you want to sit down and discuss some ideas you have to improve our choices and decisions, I would be willing to talk with you any time.
It is always easier to throw comments around on a fourm but it is another thing to have to answer face to face to the people whose lives you impact for those decisions |
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Posted - 12/17/2008 : 10:01:02 PM
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Did you get my emails Tracy?
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| Gator, Most chambers are about networking. The West Chester Alliance takes in almost all of Butler County and other areas. There are over 400 members ranging from privately owned business to publicly traded members. Many retail and service industry members. The West Chester Chamber Alliance is not interested in stepping on it's members, it's all about success as a group and the group does not serve one interest. |
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Posted - 12/17/2008 : 10:18:13 PM
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Haven't you not noticed what has been said in different threads about our neighbor Middletown? Mostly because of AK?Sun Coke that these people that are suppose to be such good nice people how they talk about their neighbors. Yes bridges are burning between Middletown and Monroe and if people keep talking so bad there is going to be a very p*ssed off neighbor to the North and that is not necessary. At some point the bridges will not be burning, they will be burnt down and not rebuilt and just because Middletown needs something built badly and their friends to the South don't want it. I hope one day that same shoe don't have to fit the other foot.
I myself don't need Middletown, I do and will continue to go there but I don't bad mouth it either. I will say I have a very good friend on Middletown city council and yes many citizens of Monroe are burning bridges. No one twist their arm to go there, they can shop and eat some where else but if they do go there as I do then why can't they have a little consideration for what THAT city needs.
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[br]No money, what bridges are we burning?
We, as leaders in Monroe, decided to make choices that we feel are the best direction for Monroe. That is one of the reasons we were elected by the citizens. If you want to sit down and discuss some ideas you have to improve our choices and decisions, I would be willing to talk with you any time.
It is always easier to throw comments around on a fourm but it is another thing to have to answer face to face to the people whose lives you impact for those decisions
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Posted - 12/17/2008 : 10:35:39 PM
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Tracy, I agree that you as leaders try to make the best choice for Monroe, as well you should. But you don't like the choice the Middletown leaders made as what is best for them. Monroe can do what the leaders choose and other cities can't?
I have a VERY good friend on Middletown city council, and yes Monroe has started the fire for burning the bridges, believe me that's a fact.
I'm done but I sure hope in the future we don't need the help from our past friends from the North. |
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