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Tom Birdwell
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I apologize for the length, but I gleaned all of the following from news articles Tuesday about Maj Nidal Malik Hasan, the Army psychiatrist who killed 13 Army soldiers and wounded at least 30 others at Ft. Hood next year.
Would someone please explain how this many incidents could possibly go by virtually unnoticed by our government officials, or if noticed, dismissed? That our government officials, military and civilian alike, stood by and watched this unfold over so many months and years, well it is about ten orders of magnitude beyond disgusting.
Again, how the hell did we let political correctness take us so ridiculously off a reasonable path, one where we are no longer willing or able to ask the difficult questions and take the actions necessary to protect our citizens, soldiers, sailors, Marines and airmen. Hell, even the Iman of Hasan's Mosque didn't trust him, and refused to permit him to do Islamic preaching officially on Ft. Hood. Now THAT should have been a clue.
Beyond the immediate horror and personal tragedy of this event, this is going to get very ugly in a much broader sense.
Why? Because the warning signs of his actions were all but blindingly illuminated over quite a long period, yet virtually ignored by US government officials, civilian and military alike. In retrospect it is quite clear that our federal government had ample opportunity to prevent this. Today it was released that Hasan was on an FBI/CIA watch list because of his communications with terrorists overseas.
While stationed at Walter Reed hospital in Washington DC, Hasan openly supported terrorist suicide bombings, and the shooting of an Army recruiter in Little Rock, by an Islamic extremist.
In a statement issued Monday night, the FBI said that Hasan came under investigation last year when his communications with radical cleric Anwar al-Awlaki, a known radical terrorist, were intercepted by terrorism investigators monitoring the cleric's communications.
During his medical residency in DC, he was supposed to give a medical lecture. Instead he presented a 50 page summation of Islam.
In his now infamous presentation, he quotes the Koran... "Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Messenger have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection."
Under a slide titled "Comments," he wrote: "If Muslim groups can convince Muslims that they are fighting for God against injustices of the 'infidels'; ie: enemies of Islam, then Muslims can become a potent adversary ie: suicide bombing, etc."
The last bullet point on that page reads simply: "We love death more then [sic] you love life!"
A classmate of Hasan, meanwhile, told FoxNews.com that the warning signs were all there — the justification of homicide bombings; spewing anti-American hatred; efforts to reach out to Al Qaeda — but that the military treated Hasan with kid gloves, even after giving him a poor performance review.
"There were definitely clear indications that Hasan's loyalties were not with America," Lt. Col. Val Finnell, Hasan's classmate at the Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences in Bethesda, Md. He and Hasan were students in the school's public health master's degree program from 2007-2008.
"The issue here is that there's a political correctness climate in the military. They don't want to say anything because it would be considered questioning somebody's religious belief, or they're afraid of an equal opportunity lawsuit.
"When you are in the military and you start making comments that are seditious, when you say you believe something other than your oath of office — someone needed to say why is this guy saying this stuff.
"He was a lightning rod. He made his views known and he was very vocal, he had extremely radical jihadist views. They should have confronted him — our professors, officers — but they were too concerned about being politically correct."
Finnell said the warning signs were clear to many, not just classmates. Faculty members, including many high-ranking military officers, witnessed firsthand his anti-Americanism, he said.
He went on to say "However, given the things that Maj. Hasan has said to me in the past and to other people, I am not surprised."
Finnell recalled Hasan telling his classmates and professors, "I'm a Muslim first and I hold the Shariah, the Islamic Law, before the United States Constitution."
Over the summer, Hasan's comments led Osman Danquah, co-founder of the mosque, to recommend that it deny Hasan's request to become a lay Muslim leader at Fort Hood, the Associated Press reported.
In the months before Thursday's shooting Hasan tried reaching out to people associated with Al Qaeda — and did so under the watchful eye of at least one U.S. intelligence agency. An intelligence official told FOXNews.com that "Hasan was on our radar for months."
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cmsquare
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Posted - 11/11/2009 : 04:29:12 AM
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sounds less like political correctness and more like pure incompetence to me.
If you've got someone in the ranks of your army expressing sympathy to the enemy (radical islam) and chastising the very people you are supposed to protect and nothing is done.....
well it just doesn't make any sense to me. The service can do whatever they want as far as kicking people out, why didn't they identify this bad seed and get rid of it? There is something wrong with the system....
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Tom Birdwell
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Posted - 11/11/2009 : 05:59:50 AM
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quote:
[i]Originally posted by cmsquare[/i]
[br]sounds less like political correctness and more like pure incompetence to me.
I believe it is both.
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Star_Rider
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Posted - 11/11/2009 : 06:54:00 AM
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"There is something wrong with the system...."
yeah it's called "political correctness", it put organizations in fear of legal action, including the Military.
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cmsquare
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Posted - 11/11/2009 : 09:11:59 AM
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You think the Army is afraid of legal action from a Muslim soldier who has repeatedly shown sympathy to the enemy?
I just don't think that's what it is. Political Correctness is what says "Don't Ask Don't Tell" should be repelled. Ignoring someone who isn't on board with the plan is just dumb.
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Matt_Steele
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Posted - 11/11/2009 : 10:54:59 AM
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I think it is way more incompetence than correctness, though I also feel like there was already a lot of stress on the military fighting two wars and trying desperately to get new recruits and not keep re-deploying current members that it caused breakdowns in the hierarchy. Very unfortunate that signs were missed. I read in the Washington Post yesterday that the FBI (or was it CIA?) monitored Hasan because he sent emails to an Iman in a country in the Middle East. However after reading the emails, they saw nothing suspicious because it was mostly academic and social chit chat.
(of course now that I try to find that article I can't, you can never find a news article on any news website the day after it seems)
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Islam in America and the Military - PC Gone Nuts
