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Posted - 06/29/2004 : 4:06:56 PM
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can you believe that solid rock is building a 40 foot jesus in their back yard. how could council approve such a thing? or did they? |
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Posted - 06/29/2004 : 4:19:18 PM
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I just read the article and loved the quote where they hoped people would think "Oh, Monroe. That's where the jesus statue is". I would rather be know as "Oh, Monroe. That's where the strip club, hustler, truck stop and flea markets are" that the statue!!
I hope the statue is a bobblehead with lasers in its eyes and smoke and fire coming out of the mouth. Now THAT would be a cool attraction. |
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Livin In Da Slums
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Posted - 06/30/2004 : 09:12:10 AM
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| That would be awesome Dan if we had a 42' giant Jesus bobblehead. Well, actually, any 42' bobble head would be awesome... |
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FairPlay
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| You know that with all the tacky things they do, the only thing left is TV. That’s when Monroe will hit rock bottom, Hustler, Bristol’s, flea markets and TV evangelists. |
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DanWilson
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Posted - 06/30/2004 : 3:01:52 PM
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They are almost there (TV). Check out this website and tell me it doesn't have "Future TV Evangelist" written all over it.
http://www.darlenebishop.org/ |
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Livin In Da Slums
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Posted - 06/30/2004 : 4:42:47 PM
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| wonderful...just what I want, to live right by a bunch of Evangelists. That church is getting out of hand. |
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MONROE04
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Posted - 06/30/2004 : 11:44:26 PM
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I just love it when people complain about Monroe, "Livin In Da Slums" I would hope is not a representation of Living in Monroe. Myself, and I am sure the rest of the Monroe population that has lived here our entire life would like to share some information. #1 This is an excelent place to live so stop the complaints. #2 You are more than welcome at any time to pack your bags and leave, we don't want people with your kind of attitude Living here anyways. Thank You! Another town of choice, maybe is not so "Rock Bottom" and by the way sorry to get off topic  |
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aniceperson
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Posted - 07/01/2004 : 12:14:33 AM
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I have seen a drawing of what the statue should look like when finished. It will be beautiful.
I have been a member of Solid Rock Church for about 12 years, and I feel that the negative remarks in this forum are truly sad and unwarranted. I have witnessed first-hand the positive things that this church body has done to help people--including me and my family when I had cancer surgery five years ago and had no one to help me care for my family or myself. I went straight from the hospital to a Solid Rock couple's home for a couple of weeks. They took care of me around the clock and fed me and my family and didn't ask for a penny. When I COULD manage to go home, members of the church provided meals for us for a couple more weeks.
Plus, I have sent many people to Solid Rock to get help with food, clothing, and other needs. I've volunteered in the maternity home, and have seen the patience and compassion of the volunteers and staff as they work with the girls.
From the outside, Solid Rock may appear flashy, but I assure you, MOST of the people there are very sincere about their faith and they try to help and give to others who are in need. I am very sorry that many people in this area, particularly readers of this forum, feel this way about my church. |
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Posted - 07/01/2004 : 09:05:08 AM
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aniceperson: People fear what they don't know. I am sure that the SRC is a good church and has helped many people. Sounds like they did some wonderful things for you. Faith can heal and many medical doctors have documented cases where faith has cured. (If you believe readers digest).
As far as a large statue of Jesus goes... I had a minister in my office yesterday. He and his family are missionaries in Poland. He needed a projector for a sermon he will deliver this weekend in a local area church. When I told him about the statue, he smiled and said that would be unbelievable. He said that he would look for it next time he passed thru this area. But he also said it is a bit funny to think about... seeing a huge statue overlooking the highway.
I am sure this will make national news. And I am sure many people will laugh. Part of me wants to laugh, part of me thinks its a good idea. There have been so many deaths in that section of I-75, perhaps when people see Jesus, they will be more careful.
Funny there is a mosque down the road a bit. Wonder what they'll think? |
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Livin In Da Slums
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Posted - 07/01/2004 : 09:41:27 AM
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| It might even cause more wrecks...a giant statue of Jesus will distract people and next thing you know, people will be driving off the road and hitting each other. |
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DanWilson
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Posted - 07/01/2004 : 10:21:07 AM
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That mosque is absolutely beautiful. They used to offer tours. They have hundreds of stained glass windows. I'm not sure if they still offer the tours, but it's well worth checking out!
I agree with Livin, I think there are going to be a few accidents there from the rubberneckers.
And to MONOROE04. Wow, that's the kind of backwoods attitude that causes this country to get itself into trouble. This country was built with the idea of freedom. I love living in Monroe, but also love the fact that I can complain about things I don't like. Do you like having a strip club and Hustler in Monroe? No? Then pack your bags and move! You see, that arguement works both ways. Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't make their ideas wrong. Everything I say is MY opinion. I don't state it to sway yours. |
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dontchaknow
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Posted - 07/01/2004 : 10:24:09 AM
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| I have heard many things negative about Solid Rock but then I have heard the good things!! But they do attract a rather large amount of people every Sunday!! |
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FairPlay
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Posted - 07/01/2004 : 11:24:01 AM
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| Seems to me that there are a lot of churches that do good work. Most of them are modest dwellings where the work is more important than the "image". Christ has been depicted as a modest person, not needing to be recognized for the work done, I think the reading tries to teach that helping others without reward will make you feel better as a person and that is the reward for the work. It seems to me that the only "Vegas Style" Show Churches I have seen have turned out to be crooked fronts for the money grubbing people who run them. Tammy Faye Bishop is building something, is it a "Stairway to Heaven, or the Highway to Hell? |
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aniceperson
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Posted - 07/02/2004 : 1:52:05 PM
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Thank you, Mr. Beagle, for your kind words. I really didn't write to argue the merits of the statue. Personally, I don't care one way or the other whether the church has a large statue. The point that I was trying to make was that so many readers feel that they are justified in lumping SRC in with other churches and ministries that have swindled innocent supporters out of their money or have been examples of hypocracy--ie. The Bakkers and Jimmy Swaggert, and from my personal experiences as a member, I have seen lives changed for the better because of the ministries of Solid Rock. Any church or group--no matter the size--that tries to help people ultimately helps this community and humanity as a whole. I was trying to offer a glimpse of what I've experienced without trying to exalt or degrade anyone or any other ministry or organization. I do not represent the leadership of Solid Rock Church. I'm just Member 707.
Perhaps, and this is just a thought, people will actually slow down as they drive that stretch of highway now. I know that few follow the suggested speed limit from Monroe to Springboro now. Maybe the statue will change that for Monroe. --Just a thought. However, as I said before, I'm really not that concerned about the statue, but I am concerned about the negative comments that folks say about my church and its leadership in this community forum. Believe me, I would be the first the hit the door if I felt that my church was heading on the "Highway to Hell". |
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Posted - 07/02/2004 : 7:42:03 PM
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| Good things are being done at many local churches here in Monroe. I just dont recall the "in your face" appearance of any other. Whats next... a 50 ft. statue if a toddler mounted on the water tower next to the Monroe United Methodist Church advertising their daycare/preschool program? |
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bigred
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Posted - 07/02/2004 : 7:52:28 PM
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| My husband was trying to find a church he could start attending and he went to check out Solid Rock. He came back discusted because he felt the congragation was too caught up in praising the pastor than Jesus. |
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mammabear
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Posted - 07/02/2004 : 7:56:30 PM
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It's funny...I have lived here for quite a while and have never felt like the SRC church, Bristol's, Hustler or any other the other "different" businesses by I-75 have been part of Monroe. They are away from where I live...but, I feel like the ongoing circus atmosphere around the I-75/Route 63 is just that...a circus. Yes, I do sometimes when people say, "where do you live?" answer "Monroe" very quietly.
I feel that if SRC wants to put up a statue that is their choice. It just goes along with all the publicity that they have always created throughout the years. I do get tired of the media attention that they create. And that people are always laughing at Monroe. That's what bothers me the most. Always in the media for the circus-type things..not the good things that happen in this little town. Just my opinion.
Put the statue up....send all the tv camera too! How about a flashy entrance too! It's all for the sake of "God" according to SRC. Funny, I thought God wasn't into the Vegas thing! |
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irishgirl76
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Posted - 07/07/2004 : 12:43:53 PM
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| Why not use the money it will cost to build this statue to help people in need. Isn't it better to give than recieve? |
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They do help people, I have heard this from Families that are in need, they have a food pantry and clothing to help those that want to go over and get some things!!
I do not attend church there, but if you don't know all the details shouldn't you just not say anything at all? You know, we can get on here and say things just about everything, but I'm quite sure that Solid Rock is just like any other Church, they have Board of Directors and they have to get their approval before they build anything, or spend any of the money, and they have to get their money from the people who attend, so I'm quite sure it was agreed on by all the people of Solid Rock.
Like I've said before, have you ever gone by there on Sunday morning? If you think the traffic is bad for the Flea Markets, then you should be there when Church lets out!!
If they want to be flashy, then let them, if they are doing good, then leave them alone!!
No one made Bristol's take the sign of the trashy girl down, and you would think no one would object to a statue of Jesus Christ!! |
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loaner288
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Posted - 07/08/2004 : 6:15:10 PM
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| Jesus!! Thats a big statue!! |
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Ohio RN
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| I have attended church all my life and have brought my children up in a church environment. I went with a friend to a function at Solid Rock Church and I felt like a fish out of water. All the flashiness is not needed to worship my God. I just wonder who is really being worshiped there. Just an opinion from someone who has been there. |
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AnnaNichole
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Posted - 07/11/2004 : 11:20:12 PM
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| I have no judgments on solid rock or people who go there. But they surely do not tip well. |
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dontchaknow
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Posted - 07/12/2004 : 08:55:21 AM
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| Sorry, but most Church people don't tip well!! My daughter used to work @ Perkins and she hated to work on Sunday's and Wednesday nights!! Isn't that a shame that people who are good christians, don't think working people deserve tips because they don't go to Church on Sunday's!! Tsk! Tsk! |
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FairPlay
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Posted - 07/12/2004 : 1:03:48 PM
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| Maybe they dont tip because they give all their money to the Church. |
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MONROE04
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Posted - 07/12/2004 : 10:16:55 PM
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| I HAVE TO ADMIT FAIR PLAY THAT LAST POST WAS A GOOD COME-BACK! |
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irishgirl76
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Posted - 07/13/2004 : 11:46:52 AM
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| I maybe wrong but i have always felt that if people have to push their beliefs in my face then i must be wary of them. |
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dontchaknow
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Posted - 07/13/2004 : 12:27:57 PM
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Do you know how much Waitress's make per hour? Probably not, but it isn't very much, something like $2.50 per hour and the rest is made up from tips, and to be too cheap to tip well is in poor taste, if you have good service then they deserve a tip, but you must have never had to make a living off other peoples generosity!!
As for giving it all to the Church, then they shouldn't be eating out if they can't afford it!! |
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Posted - 07/17/2004 : 5:26:36 PM
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| Jesus!! Some lady almost ran me off the road while looking at that statue! |
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20inchGuns
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Posted - 07/23/2004 : 5:45:14 PM
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| I'm not a Christian anymore, but don't any of you remember about the Tower of Babel and the Golden Calf. It's fine to have faith, but remember where that faith lies, not in statues and symbols, but in you heart and soul. That's what's wrong with ALL orgainized religions, people forget the true meaning. |
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| I swear to God, I was driving down the highway a few weeks ago and this huge 40'statue of Jesus jumped right out in front of me. I stopped just in time before running my car into his leg. There was no one else on the entire highway, just me and Jesus. So I went up to the statue and tried to move it a few feet off the road. It weighed a ton, so I got a rope out of my trunk and tied it to the car's frame and Jesus' mid section and started to haul it off the road. My wheels were squealing and laying down a patch of rubber that left my tires bald. It started to move, then bam, the rope broke. Jesus flew thru the air and landed next to a pond. His hands were missing and bones from his arms were sticking out. I used some of the water from the pond to fix him as best as I could, but it just started to make his face run and look like a cartoon. I'm real sorry about messing that beautiful statue up. Do me a favor, try not to look at it when you go by. Its all my fault. I think the property owner is going to try to fix it, but I don't think it will work. |
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| Uh-oh! What did I start! ?? :) |
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Hey, I think it's a good thing that we have that Jesus Statue.
First off, no one is WORSHIPPING it, so it's completely different from the calf.
Secondly it keeps those Solid Rock people happy. And I know SRC people, they are often not happy. And they don't leave tips. Maybe because all their money went to the Jesus statue. And if that's what they think society needs, rather than mission trips and such...well then...it's their money. I think....isn't it?
Plus I mean....dude, we have a giant Jesus. I see nothing wrong with that. It can be entertaining and if we can handle Hustler, then we can handle a frightful version of a savior.
Monroe's just got something for everyone! Don't you love it? It makes up for the ugly red lockers.
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| I have to say, it is their money, they put it to a vote and the congregation said "yes", and it is their property, so whatever the opinions may be really don't amount to a hill of beans in those circumstances. It's not my church, so I can't really say anything about how they spend their money unless it is affecting society in a negative way. I have to admit my church is very humble in comparison. I don't know who's right, but I'm happy where I am. And, compared to the big ole Hustler and Bristols signs, I don't know that Jesus is making that much of a negative distraction anyway. I imagine that, just like Bristols and Hustler, we will all just get used to seeing the statue there eventually and not even pay it any notice. Besides, I needed something to break up the monotony! |
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John Beagle
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Posted - 10/11/2004 : 8:53:33 PM
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Touchdown Jesus is alive and well in Monroe, Ohio.
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Jeff A
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I Read the comments about the statue. Seen a few blanket statements, which are rarely viable. Everone seems to have missed the BIG picture. The building and what you see from the road is not the church.
If your sins are washed away by the blood of the Lamb and you are living in a way that your name is written in the Lambs book of life, then you my friend ARE the church.
What you see from the road is only one of the places the church goes to gather, worship, support one another and devise a plan to spread the good news of the Gospel, which is done in in many ways.
I do not attend the SRC regularly, I do have relatives who do and I attend there on occasion. I attend @ "Freedom House" in Trenton.
SRC is a very diversified group who are excited about something that actually matters....even more then a bouncy ball!
I'll explain: I grew up wondering why the earth, myself & all these people were here. I am 43, this question plagued me for many years. It was after my salvation about 6 years ago that, One night I got a revelation. For me it solved the mystery of the universe.
I cast my pearl... Try to consider the greatness and vastness of God.... The bible says that this earth is only His footstool. He has much BIGGER things going than just what you see here on earth. To run this great operation He needs partnership in many capacitys. Elders, Judges, Angels, overseers and so forth. Lets focus on judges. His word says we (the church) "will judge the tribes of Isreal, Angels" and who knows what else. Now stay with me..... Who would make a great judge or pillar in God's kingdom? Someone who has the chose to do good or evil but chooses good? The angels that serve God now don't have this opportunity. Wouldn't that make a Godly man be of great worth to God? Thus, what this world is, is a harvest field to fill seats in the Kingdom of God.
Crazy? No, I'll back it up. There are many references to this, here is only a few:
Matthew 9:37 He said to his disciples, "A large crop is in the fields, but there are only a few workers.
Matthew 9:38 Ask the Lord in charge of the harvest to send out workers to bring it in."
This parable explains how we will be sorted and harvested....
Mat 13:24 Jesus then told them this story: The kingdom of heaven is like what happened when a farmer scattered good seed in a field. Mat 13:25 But while everyone was sleeping, an enemy came and scattered weed seeds in the field and then left. Mat 13:26 When the plants came up and began to ripen, the farmer's servants could see the weeds. Mat 13:27 The servants came and asked, "Sir, didn't you scatter good seed in your field? Where did these weeds come from?" Mat 13:28 "An enemy did this," he replied. His servants then asked, "Do you want us to go out and pull up the weeds?" Mat 13:29 "No!" he answered. "You might also pull up the wheat. Mat 13:30 Leave the weeds alone until harvest time. Then I'll tell my workers to gather the weeds and tie them up and burn them. But I'll have them store the wheat in my barn."
Gather the wheat and burn the chaf... Don't get much plainer then that does it.....?
Which will you be?
That is the BIG picture..........
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I read alot of forums, but don't respond much.But I must say that was the best explanation of why we are here that I've heard.
As for the Jesus statue: They have the Lincoln statue in Washington D.C.(The Lincoln Memorial)to give Honor to Abe Lincoln.I am not a christian but if 1/2 of what the christians say about Jesus is true,he did alot more for everyone then good ole Abe and I've never heard one complaint about his statue.It's amazing to me what offends people.I say give honor where honor is due. |
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A few comments:
I have to admit that I was a bit shocked when I saw 'Super Jesus' being erected as the whole apparatus looked far gaudier partially assembled than it does now. Now I just drive by and think. ‘Man the Muslims down the street are really going to think we are infidels & idolaters now.’ 
It is nice that I can give others directions to my house using 'Super Jesus' now. Sure beats what most people previously knew our exit for.
I think it would be handy if they installed a garage door opener operated Karate Chop Action Arm so 'Super Jesus' could smite bad drivers right off the interstate. 
I am a Christian and a pretty conservative one at that despite the nature of my comments. I am a bit concerned that 'Super Jesus' might fall under that whole 'Graven Image' category, so I am not entirely comfortable with it. I am not a member of SRC, so I guess what they choose to do with their resources really isn't my business. I'll just shut up now and brace myself for the fire & brimstone... Hope everyone likes salt |
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I have to compound on the post by 20inchguns, God, Jesus, Budda, Allah, Ra and etc are not intended to be 40’ status on the side of the interstate. Their message is intended to come through us in the form of helping other people. I am sure that without a doubt, Jesus would have much preferred the money used to build the statue to have been used to feed starving people, or buy winter coats for children that have none, or blankets for people who have to live in their cars or anything that would have actually helped someone. The Divine is a whole lot bigger then the statue and he/she knows it. Just as the 12 disciples who personally walked around with Jesus, but still failed on many occasions to “Get It”, we now have millions of followers who still don’t.
The concept “Live simply so others simply may live” is not a tough one to grasp, but it is easy to ignore. Jesus helped the poor, the outcast, the leapers, and those who no one wanted to be around. He told us to love one another, not to build 40’ statues of him, and giant churches with stadium seating, and buy Armani suits to wear on the TV broadcast on Sunday morning telling people how Jesus will provide. If you what to show people how Jesus can provide for them, then go out and feed someone and tell them Jesus sent you. Mother Teresa of Calcutta was once told “I would not do your job for a million dollars”. She answered them by saying “Neither would I, I do it for Jesus”. That to me speaks about the power of God much more then the 40’ racially incorrect interpretation of Jesus that sits in front of SRC.
God bless the whole world, no exceptions,
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Last night my wife called Lawrence Bishop, (we are his neighbors), and asked if we could stop up and listen to him play his guitar. He is in a band that was on the Gospel Christian Country awards show. He told us to come on up. He is probably one of the most kind, humble, and giving persons I have ever met. We bought a horse from him and he brought it over and checks up on it from time to time. God blesses those who bless others. As for those who do not believe, that is not my business. I can pray for you but if you are not willing to hear, I am useless. We all do things that are wrong, but I am glad that I am forgiven if I only ask for it. Right now you may not feel like listening, but if you ever come to a point in your life when you feel empty inside although you have alot of stuff, remember to call on his name. I do not like stuff being crammed down my throat by self-righteous people, so I apologize in advance if this seems to sound that way. ( we also may not understand why the statue is so big, but maybe some good can come from it)Have a great day all!!
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I am sure that the Bishop’s are very nice people, my statement is simply that Jesus intended for us to help one another. He works through us if we let him. And I have very good hearing; I have heard the cries of the poor many times and watch people walk right past them.
I am sure in the mind of many, the statue may glorify the Divine, but in my mind, when you spit on his/her people (which is everyone, regardless of their religion), then you spit on him/her. I do believe that Matthew 25 speaks of this, it is a two way street. And yes, I believe that building a 42’ racially incorrect Jesus statue while there are impoverished in the area is spitting in his/her face. Do I need to bring up the issue of the Golden Calf from Exodus 32?
If you feel that 42’ statues and elaborate temples will bring you closer to the Divine, then by all means build all the ones you want, but at least use natural, non-poisonous materials that will actually decay overtime. Why, because we should show respect for this wonderful planet that the Divine provided for us and stop trying to kill it. Besides why should future generations be made to suffer needlessly?
WWJB – What Would Jesus Build? Certainly not a 42’ statue of himself, I don’t think that he was that arrogant, He would have feed people first. In fact he did, do you remember the loaves and the fishes? He could have take the lot back to town, sold it all in the market and retired. Why do people keep missing the message? Argh!!!!!!!!!!!! By the way, I am trying to help you open your eyes to the world around you… Please do not take this personally, I am just a very passionate person.
God bless the whole world, no exceptions,
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Darrick,
Thanks for commenting on my earlier post. I've been quiet, just reading all the comments made after my post and I think we see that everyone has very different opinions. Someone even said "they're not worshiping it..." I never said they were. My main point is that Jesus would not have agreed to the construction and a "true" Christian wouldn't either. Just like those that put the fish symbol on the back of their cars then tailgate or try to run you off the road.....What am I supposed to yield to you just cause theirs a fish on your car. "Oh they're Christian, I should ignore their poor driving" HA! It's good to be passionate about something, but to what point is passion becoming fanatacism. Oh I've read the little comic books they give you saying how all non-christians call them fanatics. But not all Christians are. I know lots of good Christians who "live" their religion and don't need to prove themselves to anyone but themselves and God.
It's the age of the Super Size. Jesus isn't big enough in your hearts, you must erect an oversized "image" of him. And I agree with Darrick, Jesus didn't look like a throwback from Woodstock, he's mideastern. But again, it's not his appearance that matters nor his nationality, it was his actions. |
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Hornet86
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