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Posted - 12/20/2007 :  08:38:21 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote Report Abuse

So we appear to have coyotes, eh (http://www.mainstreetmonroe.com/Voice/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7283)? Huh.

Miscellaneous facts: http://ohioline.osu.edu/w-fact/0004.html

Woo! They are predators of rodents and deer, too!

Abstract of history of distribution in Ohio: https://kb.osu.edu/dspace/handle/1811/23411

Did you really see one/some? Images of coyotes (Canis latrans) for comparison:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Canis_latrans_walking.jpg
http://www.michigan.gov/dnr/0,1607,7-153-10370_12145_12205-60378--,00.html
http://www.ohiodnr.com/wildlife/dow/Photos/PhotoDetailHorizontal.aspx?m=simple&id=6741&page=3&count=12&term=coyote&pos=29
http://www.ohiodnr.com/wildlife/dow/Photos/PhotoSearch.aspx?m=simple&term=coyote
(most of the images on the last link are "trophy" shots showing hunters with killed coyotes, giving a good sense of the size of the average coyote)

Nature is ever at work building and pulling down, creating and destroying, keeping everything whirling and flowing, allowing no rest but in rhythmical motion, chasing everything in endless song out of one beautiful form into another. -John Muir, Naturalist and explorer (1838-1914)

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Posted - 12/20/2007 :  09:25:23 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote Report Abuse

Coyotes also like feral cats. My neighbor feeds them everyday and they will not go away.


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Posted - 12/20/2007 :  09:32:42 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote Report Abuse

I've seen them, especially in the morning. I see them streak across 63 from the large field (near Rt 4)to the neighborhood across the road. They're skinny little things and they're quick; graceful.
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Posted - 12/20/2007 :  09:40:15 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote Report Abuse

There is no Hunting season on coyotes. There are open season year round. You used to be able to hunt them, cut their tails off for proof, and get $30.00 per tail.

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Posted - 12/20/2007 :  1:09:26 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote Report Abuse

Scare Tactics
Guard dogs, donkeys (only a jenny or gelded jack), or llamas can be very effective at reducing predation. Noise and visual repellents, such as strobe lights, sirens, and propane exploders, can help temporarily. No chemical or odor repellents are registered for use with coyotes.

Instead of grabbing a gun, let's go to the shelter and adopt a homeless German Shepard.
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Posted - 12/20/2007 :  2:36:50 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote Report Abuse

Thats just how the state would rather do it. Same with deer hunting. If someone would have gotten injured by a coyote, everyone would be out for the kill. JMO.

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Posted - 12/20/2007 :  2:38:40 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote Report Abuse

Went to see a movie last night...came up TodHunter hill around 745 at the top near the stop sign my family and I watched a thin but tall lanky "coyote" wander across the roadway and up into the driveway of a home across from the big farm. We were shocked and even put the car in reverse to get a better look but a car came up onto us so we headed home.
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Posted - 12/20/2007 :  3:00:06 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote Report Abuse

I heard they may kill small children. Is this true?
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Posted - 12/20/2007 :  3:09:25 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote Report Abuse

I've never seen any coyotes in Monroe but I have met a few cougars!
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Posted - 12/20/2007 :  3:24:53 PM  Show Profile  Visit John Beagle's Homepage  Reply with Quote Report Abuse

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[i]Originally posted by bengalsfan94[/i]
[br]I heard they may kill small children. Is this true?

It must be true that we have coyotes in Monroe, because they had armed police escorting the children home.


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Posted - 12/20/2007 :  3:36:36 PM  Show Profile  Visit Eagle's Homepage  Reply with Quote Report Abuse

If memory serves me right Boss Hogg had commented on this Last year about this time..Or was it the mouse problem?....LMAO.
Ive searched and found many reports of coyotes in threads, but cannot find his. Lets be glad the kids are getting out on Christmas break. This will give the city officials time to figure out how to deal with the problem. I wouldnt suggest leaving FiFi outside if your in the area of them being spotted. FiFi might have a new name. LunchAble.


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Posted - 12/20/2007 :  3:42:07 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote Report Abuse

The police will come to your house and hunt them with you pending on where you live in Monroe.

True story.............

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Posted - 12/20/2007 :  3:51:02 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote Report Abuse

Per the Ohio hunting guide there is no closed season and no limit on how many you shoot. I hear them all the time in Monroe Crossings but they don't bother people or large dogs. I have 2 German Shepards and they have never been bothered but I would be careful with letting small fuffy dogs and cats run loose.


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Posted - 12/20/2007 :  4:02:26 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote Report Abuse

I just hate seeing them killed. It's not their fault we have encroached on their habitat and they are only trying to survive. Why can't we just tranquilize them and move them. Surely they would adapt to a new area.

We used to watch TV in horror as CHP would walk right up to a sleeping mountain lion and kill it just because it stopped in someone's backyard. There was plenty of time to cordon off the area and call Animal Control to tranquilze it. They should only be killed as a last result or if injured or rabid.
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Posted - 12/20/2007 :  4:07:40 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote Report Abuse

The chance of them attacking is slim to none and I mean it is like crossing the street and being hit by a car. They controll the small rodents in the area and I am not sure how many people let the small kids play in the woods by there self. I enjoy listening to them in the summer while sitting in the pool. They have plenty of food sources and are easy to scare off.


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Posted - 12/20/2007 :  4:13:58 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote Report Abuse

I'm not sure about Ohio, but in Ky. they had been extinct for many years, if they had even been there in the last century, and the state re-introduced them to the area, and they are flourishing. My neighbor has had sheep killed by them within the last five years and were a constant threat that had to be watched here in Monroe!!!! They come up to my fence and would have no trouble with my dog if they were together.

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Posted - 12/20/2007 :  4:24:42 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote Report Abuse

I'm not going to worry about them and leave them alone. If they get out of control maybe ODNR will set traps for them.


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Posted - 12/20/2007 :  6:09:38 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote Report Abuse

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[i]Originally posted by Ellie[/i]
[br]I've seen them, especially in the morning. I see them streak across 63 from the large field (near Rt 4)to the neighborhood across the road. They're skinny little things and they're quick; graceful.



They're not all skinny little things. I saw one yesterday by Miller Brewery that was the largest and thickest one I've seen. The others I've seen were also larger than what they were 10 years ago.
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Posted - 12/20/2007 :  7:47:32 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote Report Abuse

I saw one recently out by Middletwon airport. Skinny...
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Posted - 12/20/2007 :  9:44:51 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote Report Abuse

have never seen one around here...I've got a blonde dog that it could have tho!!! (I keed I keed)

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monroegardener
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Posted - 12/21/2007 :  09:30:47 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote Report Abuse

Coyotes are, in my opinion, less of a threat and more of a benefit. Not counting little dogs (oh yeah, those are threatened!), the critters that the coyotes hunt need to be kept in check.

At a glance, it sounds far more likely for one (human) to suffer an attack from a domesticated dog than an attack from a coyote:

http://tchester.org/sgm/lists/coyote_attacks.html
-includes tips on what to do if you are attacked. e.g. -DON'T run. Coyotes can do over 30 mph. DO yell/holler/act aggressively toward an attacking coyote.

In other words, be the alpha coyote.

Or try to be the alpha coyote's worst nightmare.




Nature is ever at work building and pulling down, creating and destroying, keeping everything whirling and flowing, allowing no rest but in rhythmical motion, chasing everything in endless song out of one beautiful form into another. -John Muir, Naturalist and explorer (1838-1914)
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Posted - 12/21/2007 :  09:45:48 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote Report Abuse

They are not very likely to attack an adult human, and if they did would be extremely dangerous in that they would/could be rabid. Everyone I have ever encountered ran from me and would have to be a good shot/hunter to kill these animals. They are wary of humans.

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Posted - 12/21/2007 :  12:56:42 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote Report Abuse

I think if there was an attack on a human, it's more likely to be by a pack rather than a lone coyote, They have a pack mentality especially when hunting.
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Posted - 12/21/2007 :  3:11:31 PM  Show Profile  Click to see bb1's MSN Messenger address  Send bb1 a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote Report Abuse

quote:
[i]Originally posted by Respector[/i]
[br]I think if there was an attack on a human, it's more likely to be by a pack rather than a lone coyote, They have a pack mentality especially when hunting.



Does that mean we can do that dog-whisperer "cht!" Finger thing to make them submissive?
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Posted - 12/21/2007 :  4:17:26 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote Report Abuse

Got permission, thanks.

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Posted - 12/23/2007 :  8:50:23 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote Report Abuse

There was a pack of beagles in my yard this morning hot on the trail.
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Posted - 12/23/2007 :  9:00:17 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote Report Abuse

quote:
[i]Originally posted by Instigator[/i]
[br]There was a pack of beagles in my yard this morning hot on the trail.



John's family out caroling again, eh?

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Posted - 12/23/2007 :  9:02:52 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote Report Abuse

quote:
[i]Originally posted by blueblood[/i]
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[i]Originally posted by Instigator[/i]
[br]There was a pack of beagles in my yard this morning hot on the trail.



John's family out caroling again, eh?

John has a good voice. LOL
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Posted - 12/23/2007 :  9:57:03 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote Report Abuse

Does anyone know who's beagles those were? My guess they were tracking the wild coyote.
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