the Mall a good idea?
Click on the link below to read both sides opinions and form your own opinion.
Opinions Pros & Cons
opinion on the Mall*
the Mall Opinions
Will it lead to pollution, traffic and additional tax burdens? What
will become of the land if it is not developed for the mall?
What did you think?
Are we going to lose more
green space than we should?
Or will the
revenue windfall keep our property tax rates in check?
opinion on the Mall*
the Mall Opinions
New Mall would raise millions in tax revenues
March 19, 2000 -In reference to the employment at the new mall,
"the annual payroll is targeted to be
$177,000,000. Once the mall and the out-parcels are fully developed, the
estimated total tax revenue paid to the schools, the city, the counties
and the state is $58,000,000. (By the way, state law does not allow tax
abatement for commercial developments as it does for industrial
developments.) This generation of new tax dollars can play a major role in
providing for not only the schools, but the entire region." according
to Leonard L. Robinson, realtor for the land.
Kyles Station Road Interchange required for Mall
A petition for the support of the proposed Kyles Station Road Interchange on
I-75 (approximately 1 mile south of I-75 and State Route 63) is currently being circulated. The new interchange is the first step required for the new mall. If you are interested in signing the petition, please contact Leonard Robinson at 539-2000.
Mall Developer has many Malls
Jan. 1, 2000 By John Beagle
Last Fall a local news
source reported that Real Estate Developer Taubman (headquartered in Bloomfield
Hills, Michigan), was considering developing a Super Mall in Monroe, Ohio.
Taubman is a regional
shopping center developer with properties across the United States. The average
rent per square foot of $43.09 is charged in Taubman properties.
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Since the Mall has to be approved by the
Ohio Department of Transportation first, letters
in support are needed for the project. Information
content of the letter and who to send it to will be updated here. In the
meantime here is ODOT's home page and contact links.
Miller's Creek will need to
be modified for Monroe Mall
Taubman, the Monroe Mall developer has applied to
the U.S. Army Corp of Engineers to modify the current location of a small
portion of Miller's Creek. This is the first step in getting a new
mall in Monroe. The location of the creek is east of I-75, north of
Kyles Station Road and south of Route 63.
According to Leonard Robinson, real estate broker for
the deal, "The creek is currently is nearly dead, the banks are
eroded and it only contains water a few days per year. This creek will not
get better without intervention. By rerouting the creek, we will improve
Monroe Business Council
Meets Mall Developer
Jan. 7, 2000 Monroe City Building
Today a representative from The Taubman
Company (Mall Developer) met with the newly formed Monroe
Business Council.. Joseph K. Hart Jr. is in charge of the mall project.
He is Manager of Development for The Taubman Company.
Value Center -
The project is
considered a "Value Center" type mall. There is a Taubman Mall
in Auburn Hills, Michigan that is representative of the "Value
Center" mall considered for Monroe, Ohio.
This type of mall is different from the
1. There are 14 to 17 anchor stores with a minimum of 20,000 square feet
each. This is different from most malls that have 2 or 3 anchor stores.
2. There will be sports available. Basketball and racquetball courts were
3. Entertainment such as "Theme Restaurants" and a 25 screen
movie theatre. (Rainforest Restaurant is an example of a "Theme
If approved, the mall will have 1.4 Million
square feet of retail space situated on 360 acres east of I-75
and south of St. Rt. 63. The project would be located south of the current
structures in Corridor 63. The realtor involved is Larry Robinson at Robinson-Lawton-Kent.
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The Mall is NOT
January 2003 Update - Mall still not dead!
According to Lenny Robinson, the realtor for the Mall
Project, "The Mall is very much alive and still on target. This is
a long term project and Taubman still has a long term option on the
property. The mall is certainly not near death's door and we didn't ask
to be on anyone's prayer list."
Lenny went on to cite 2 reasons for
1. Taubman as recently as a few weeks ago was working with the Butler
County Engineers Office on a sewer project (trunk sewer line) affecting
the proposed mall land.
2. The mall property is not on the market for anyone else to buy but
Taubman. If the mall project were dead, that property would be on the
Vocal on Proposed Kyle's Station Interchange
Ohio Department of Transportation Review Advisory Council (TRAC) has
received over 1500 letters, E-Mails and postcards opposing the new
interchange, while only receiving approximately 80 from proponents
According to Michael Cull, coordinator for TRAC, the Cincinnati
Council, the Dayton Council, and the Sierra Club oppose the
interchange. He said the review council will definitely weigh the
opposition's opinions, but whether or not their opinions are enough to
stop the project remains to be seen.
Cull said the council would decide on the future of the project after
the justification study has been reviewed. The Taubman Company,
interested in developing a 220 store shopping mall on land located at
I-75 and Ohio 63, is paying for the justification study.
has no say on Mall
April 10, 2000 -
It was the Middletown Journal's top story on April 7th,
"WARREN BACKS OFF MONROE MALL." The story was misleading because
the residents of Monroe were led to believe that Warren County had the final say.
The proposed mall site is in Warren County within Monroe city limits.
According to Bob Price, County Administrator for Warren County,
"Warren county has no say on whether Monroe gets a mall." Only
the Monroe Council has any say on the Mall.
Additionally, Warren county is in favor of the proposed I-75 interchange.
Traffic from I-75 to I-71 is heavy and projected to be heavier when Rt. 63
is extended to Trenton.
Mr. Price went on to
say, there are zero residents that live in both Warren County
and Monroe. All the residents of Monroe live in Butler county.
The Warren County
Ohio Board of County Commissioners consist of Larry Crisenbery, Pat South
and Mike Kilburn. You may reach them via email: cris11
Formed to Oppose Mall
of the Alliance for Responsible Growth (ARG) is to educate the public
about the far-reaching costs and consequences of the interchange, the
mega-mall, and the resulting unplanned
Support The Monroe, Ohio Mall!
April 9, 2000 -A
(just updated) http://hometown.aol.com/mws813/index.html
in favor of the mall was submitted to MainStreetMonroe.
It offers ways to support the mall. Here is an excerpt from the site:
Please show your support for
the Proposed Monroe Mall by doing the following:
1. Write your State, County,
and City Officials and let them know that you support the proposed Mall
and new interchange.
2. Ignore the negative Mall
hype! It has no basis and seems to be supported by other Malls to
eliminate any possible competition! If you don't believe this contact the
Trotwood Chamber of Commerce, who just objected to the Mall and
interchange, because they feel it would hurt their Mall. People, the
Taubman group would not invest $200,000,000 on a new Mall if there was
not a market for it! THINK ABOUT IT!!!!!
3. Email or Write to Michael
Cull at ODOT and show your support for the new I-75 Kyle's Station
The Ohio Department of
Attn: Michael Cull
1980 W. Broad St.
Mall, Just Another Outlet Mall?
by: Bill Schiering, December 29, 1999
In an interview with the Cincinnati Enquirer, Scott McCarthy, Vice President of Development with the Taubman Co, Bloomfield Hills, Michigan Developer said the plans for the mall are extremely preliminary.
Mr. McCarthy said he foresees a 1.7-million-square-foot enclosed mall with 1.4 million square feet of
leased space, which could be occupied by T.J. Maxx, the Brooks Brothers outlet, an Ann Taylor outlet, movie theaters and entertainment-themed restaurants.
Mr. McCarthy said his company has been looking at Greater Cincinnati for a few years. The Taubman Co. has billed the project as an upscale shopping and entertainment attraction - one that may draw more than the 3 million visitors who come to Paramount's Kings Island each year, said Warren County Commissioner Pat South.
Based on Taubman's work on other malls throughout the country,
Commissioner South said she expects anything but the typical suburban mall sprawl. "What really intrigues me about the company is that by the appearance, it will not be an obtrusive looking mall as we have come to know malls," she said. "It is supposed to offer a lot of green space appearance and a lot of trees and openness."
Is it going to be just another
outlet mall? I think not. In 1998, sales in Taubman centers averaged $426/sq. ft. This compares to a 1998 national average of just over $200/sq. ft. for all regional malls.
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New Monroe Mall?
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